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, though, alex, was susan collins basically endorsing john kerry. that has been all the chatter from republicans. john kerry would sail through here. some democrats say, the reason why they have the chatter about john kerry, they want to get scott brown elected in a special election. if john kerry is nominated they could lose a senate seat. a lot of other democrats that say look, president obama should not waste his political capital on susan rice. we have a fiscal cliff, we want to do immigration reform. why have this nasty fight. john kerry has been a loyal deputy to president obama. let him get through here. john kerry gave him the speaking role at the '04 convention, john kerry endorsed him after he lost new hampshire in 2008. john kerry has been loyal. it's his turn. that's the interesting subplot along with the gop attacks on susan rice, not only for how she dealt with benghazi but now susan collins a moderate opening up about her time in the clinton administration back in the late '90s. >> intrigue on capitol hill, mckay. i thought it was because the gop loved john kerry, thou
is going to have a pretty easy sail through the confirmation, john kerry or somebody like that. it's unusual somebody we don't know is going to be nominated is working the u.s. senate this hard. is this an ultimate political genius move by the obama white house? are they thinking they're going to take this into a fight for senate confirmation? >> day two of this pr campaign to face the critics on the hill. senator corker is who we're going to have the opportunity to -- rice will have the opportunity to meet with him at noon. in advance of today's meeting, "she always delivers the party line, the company line, whatever the talking points are." is this an example, though, of rice facing critics -- explain the type of diplomacy she would need to display if she's going to go into negotiations with china? it's different than, you know, facing your foes on the hill when you're facing those from a different country. >> right. i think frankly it's inexplicable on the republican side. i do think this is a prelude probably to rice being nominated. and i really don't see how the republicans w
cain referring to john kerry in case he was -- in the event he was nominated as secretary of state and susan collins in addition to the comments we have played said she would support john kerry as secretary of state. how much is about that and not about benghazi? >> i don't know what it's about. i'm not aware of evidence this suggesting that ambassador rice manipulated any data for a political purpose. what i am aware of and this is based on reporting of sources and "wall street street," is that the intelligence provided to the president as part of his pdb said what she repeated on national television and arguably it's the same intelligence that would have been provided to governor romney receiving intelligence briefings in the final stages of the campaign and perhaps i have believed that's why he stayed away from the issue in the final debate. so why aren't they saying, we need more information about the cia? we need to know where was the intelligence failure on the part of cia. that seems to me a very reasonable question as opposed to holding responsible she who went on and repeated what t
he'll appoint susan rice. i'm not a fab of -- fan of hers but i think she'll be confirmed. john kerry might be a worse secretary of state so maybe one goes ahead and lets him have the secretary of state of wants. other maybe one votes against it as senators say she wasn't forth coming in september and she should have known better than to say what she said but since democrats control the senate i assume she'll get concerned. >> chris: what's wrong with john kerry as secretary of state? >> susan rice is nor interventionist. >> john kerry has been against intervening in every war. iraq, he was for it before he was against it. i think susan rice might go with juan and say the light footprint thing isn't working out. >> if one things we're in an incredibly dangerous moment thanks to the light footprint. maybe susan rice would be more alarmed than john kerr. >> chris: kirsten, do you think the president will name her? >> i don't know but if he does, it -- that kind of arrogance, could be his under doing because if she's put under oath and forced to go through and answer these questions abou
is likely to be confirmed by the senate. john kerry may be a worse secretary of state so maybe one let's him go ahead and have the secretary of state he wants. >> secretary of state hillary clinton not the only cabinet position he has to fill as he looks to the second term. joining me, chuck todd, chief white house correspondent and political director and host of the daily rundown on nsnbc as well. start with susan rice, john mccain, bill crystal among republicans that seem a little more open to her replacing hillary clinton now. what happened? >> a couple things. one, sustaining a filibuster, they realized is that a fight worth having and it wasn't clear the republicans, there really was this type of energy if you will in the republican conference on the senate side to do something like that. then secondly on the merits and this is what bill crystal was hinting at. bill crystal, neoconservative if you will and interventionist and there is certainly a big chunk of senate republicans that put themselves in that respect. if you take a look at the philosophical differences, that's why he ends u
rice's nomination. she did say that john kerry would be an excellent appointment and would be easily confirmed. tell us why that might not quite be what republicans think it is. >> one issue is that it's senator john kerry becomes secretary of state john kerry and suddenly there's a special election in new jersey and some people were thinking about the opportunity for republicans. >> scott brown. >> scott brown is very popular and that's one angle. conservatives also have policy priorities, and one thing we have noticed is that while senator collins has gone one way, criticizing susan rice. i suspect that there are also people that are skeptical that senator kerry shares that position. >> he's more dovish than rice. >> a lot of folks including bill crystal who actually care about these things, are saying wait a second, republicans, susan rice might be a better pick than john kerry. >> he was very careful and he's been careful to not say he's for or against susan rice but he did have a warning for the president. here he is. >> i would just ask that the president step away from all the
and people might decide, given the range of alternative appointments, maybe she's not -- john kerry might be a worse secretary of state. so, maybe, one goes ahead and lets him have the secretary of state he wants or one vote against it, as senators will say she was not forthcoming, obviously in september and should have known better than to say what she said, and vote against it but since democrats control the senate i'm assuming she'll get confirmed. >> chris: what is wrong with john kerry as secretary of state. obviously he is not who you would appoint but as a democratic... >> susan rice is more interventionist than john kerry. he's the guy who has been against -- every we're, the first gulf war, and, the iraqi war, he was against it and i think susan rice might go along with juan and say, the light footprint thing is not working out so well and not having presence in libya and not intervening in syria... >> chris: push for the intervention of -- >> yes, and, it's not my administration, not my choice but if one thinks, it is incredibly dangerous moment, thanks to the light footprint, a
will be dominated. >> i -- i think she will be nominated. abc correspondent, jake tapper. john kerry may be the alternative pick for secretary of state. but is he also a teen idol? viewfinder is coming up next. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks or jumping into the market he goes with people he trusts, which is why he trades with a company that doesn't nickel and dime him with hidden fees. so he can worry about other things like what the market is doing and being ready, no matter what happens which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense from td ameritrade. >> eliot: coming up, the less fortunate need our help. and some think that includes goldman sachs. but first, the empire state building light show, the john kerry fan club and the winners and losers in the middle east. when it doesn't fit anywhere else, we put it in the viewfinder. >> broadway wasn't the only place to catch a good show last night. the empire state building put on its first ever light show.
as a moderate, discussing the possibility of a john kerry nomination to be secretary of state. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and would be easily confirmed by his colleagues. >> at the same time, there was really no love there for susan rice and what she did, which was surprising to a lot of us watching, was she raised the 1998 bombings, the embassy bombings in kenya and tanzania when susan rice was the assistant secretary for african affairs in the bill clinton administration in basically in the state department back then and what was her responsibility over that? susan collins said we hadn't learned the lessons and she had troubling questions about that. she asked susan rice about it and susan rice said she would have to refresh her memory. >> i think the benghazi controversy opened the door to other senators, other critics of susan rice, to raise questions, including about her tenure when she was assistant secretary of state for african affairs and there is -- there has been criticism of her role there. i mean in some ways i think susan collins' criticism has more p
clinton. would you support her? >> i would be very hard pressed. >> if it were john kerry? >> he became within a whisper of being president of the united states. i think that works in his favor but, i would love to hear him make his case. but i don't have anything in his background like this tragedy in benghazi, that would make me really want to make me carefully examine the situation. >> if president obama nominating john kerry in stead of susan rice, massachusetts would hold a special election to fill kerry's seat, which provokes this question. >> would you be running again in the special election? >> there's no vacancy that i'm aware of and we'll see what happens. >> with elizabeth warren poised to be sworn in in january, today, the scott brown for senate campaign 2.0 got everything it could hope for from john mccain, lindsey graham from john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte after their meeting with ambassador rice. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than before. >> i'm more troubled today. >> senator mcc
rights issues than john kerry would be. john kerry, if he were nominated for secretary of state, would probably have an easier time through the senate, especially now, but also because the senators there are his colleagues. >> amanda, thanks very much. see you soon. >> thank you. >> this hour the president meets with mexico's president-elect, and they're taking immigration. could we be on the verge of major reform? the spin cycle is next, and we roll on for tuesday, november 27th. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. olaf gets great rewards for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve great rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business
john kerry, the road to confirmation will look quite a bit different. >> john kerry came within a whisker of being president of the united states. i think that works in his favor. i don't have anything in his ba background like this tragedy in benghazi that would make me r l really want to carefully examine the whole situation. >> now one problem for mccain and graham as they prepare to wage this fight with the white house, they lost their third amigo, gave them bipartisan credibility. joe lieberman acted yesterday as a character witness for susan rice, telling reporters on the hill that he supports her. >> i would not feel that her appearances and anything she said on those sunday morning talk shows september 16 would disqua disqualify her for appointment to any other office. >> rice defended herself in a statement following her meetings writing, quote, while we certainly wish we had had perfect information just days after the terrorist attack as is often the case the intelligence assessment has evolved. we didn't intend to mislead the american people at any stage in the proce
that are in play here, that is senator john kerry and susan rice. there's no question about it she's qualified. however, i'll remind you and the audience that senators do have a constitutional role in this, and that is to advise and consent. the question is whether or not she's able to alleviate the concerns to pass confirmation. >> i'm not sure we have a little bit of a delay with robert there, but i apologize for that. but i spoke with jeanne shaheen a short time ago. and here's what she had to say about some of the republican critics of susan rice. >> it's unfortunate that much of that discussion has gotten so personal. she does need to get a fair hearing. i'm hopeful senator mccain is a patriot, i think he'll give her a fair hearing. i certainly think that of my colleague from new hampshire, senator ayotte and of lindsey graham. >> do you think she'll get a fair hearing? how tough will the questioning be? >> well, look, it seems clear there are some republicans that want to make an issue out of this. the unfortunate part for republicans, they don't have the votes. robert's right, they do h
and discussion but i would be hard pressed. >>neil: would you support john kerry? >> let's go through the process. john kerry came a whisker of being president of the united states, and that's working if his favor. but i would love to hear him make the case. i don't have anything in his background like this tragedy in benghazi that would make me really want to carefully examine the whole situation. >>neil: you know him pretty well and there was talk he wanted you on his ticket, do you know if he is frustrated he could be passed up for the secretary of state position? >> i think john has been very careful about his views on this situation. and appropriately so i have not heard him express any specifics. >>neil: if i could move on to grover norquist and some of the colleagues taking a different tact on the pledge. what do you think of this? >> i admire grover norquist. he has a role to play in the search air i don't of the republican party. i have always been against ethanol subsidies, sugar subsidies, all of those things that i thought were wasteful and unnecessariful and the result of special int
's an easy pick, pick john kerry, the republicans like one of their own, he's a senator. they also have a political interest in that. if john kerry is elevated to a cabinet position, they eventually has to be a vote in a special election, scott brown just loss. there's a lot of press going on in addition to the president having to make a tough policy choice. >> thank you very much. john king reporting. republicans on capitol hill keep asking the president to show them where he wants to cut not just who he wants to tax. joining us now is the number three man in the senate republican leadership, senator john thune of south dakota. senator, thanks very much for coming in. >> good afternoon, wolf. >> before i get to the fiscal cliff and the taxes, spending cuts, are you ready to make an announcement on how you would vote as far as confirmation of susan rice is concerned if the president nominated her to be secretary of state? >> i'm not ready to make that determination right now. but i do think that her meetings up here have raised lots of questions. and there are more reservations about he
of them. in addition to ambassador rice, some have suggested the president considering senator john kerry. national security adviser tom donilon and on the short list as well, i want to bring in doug brinkley to join us. first of all, thank you very much. put this in perspective, if you have. we've seen this develop over the last couple of days and even the last couple of hours. the critics are not satisfied at all with what they are hearing. is there a point, is there a time now when perhaps the administration is thinking, cut their losses, this is not necessarily the right nominee? >> i would hope that that rubicon occurred today when senator collins turned her back on rice, that was not a good omen for rice becoming secretary of state. it's been a lot of testing and trial balloons making confirmation hearing. she very possibly likely could. but it will be a bruised affair and i'm not sure our country needs that right now. she's a fantastic american, great diplomat, but might be better working in the white house since president obama admires her so much as national security adviser. joh
to president obama to do it again. he's won a second term and he needs to make it great. naming john kerry to replace clinton fits that bill. picking susan rice would be good. picking kerry would be better. since jefferson post of secretary of state stands alone in history, in spite its nature, holding the most stature but for the president himself. kerry won 252 electoral votes against the sitting chief executive, a war time president at that. a combat veteran of vietnam, a leading critic of the war a five-time sort heavyweight that obama picked the first time. i say this even as i detest the lynch mob that's thrown itself together this week for ambassador susan rice. the president is right about badder. s and bad arguments. they are precisely the same as those used in the swift boating to keep john kerry from the presidency. they attack her for her early explanation of the horror of benghazi when the real complaint is something that she had nothing to do with, the death of our ambassador chris stevens. the real complaint was his opposition to the vietnam war on his return. his opposition
to replace secretary clinton. many think it will be ambassador rice. but senator john kerry had been the thought for many, many months until recently. jure thoughts on john kerry as secretary of state as opposed to susan rice, as a nominee? >> i am always in favor of u.n. ambassadors making something of themselves when they finish at the u.n. if the president wants to have a fight he thinks he can win, he can get a fight with susan rice. let's be crass about this. i think the president thinks he's on a roll. i think he thinks republicans are going to fold like a cheap suit on taxes and entitlements. i think ultimately he thinks they will fold on susan rice, too. my guess is, he nominates her. he thinks he is going to win and he emerges stronger. if republicans want to take a position on susan rice, they better be prepared to think through the implication and not hand the president a victory he doesn't deserve. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you. senator john thune is here and joining us. >> good evening, greta. >> have you seen anything to indicate we are close to a resolution or moving
, but senator john kerry had sort of been the thought for many, many thoughts until recently. your thoughts on senator john kerry being the secretary of state as opposed to ambassador rice as a nominee? >> i'm always in favor of u.s. ambassadors to the u.n. making something of themselves when they-- when they finish their job at the u.n. you know, if the president wants to have a fight that he thinks he can win, he can certainly get a fight with susan rice. and let's be crass about this. i think the president thinks he's on a roll. i think he thinks republicans gearing fold like a cheap suit on taxes and entitlements. i think ultimately he thinks they'll fold on susan rice, too. so my guess is, he nominates her, he thinks he's going to win, and emerges stronger. i'll just say this. if republicans want to take a position on susan rice, they better be prepared to think through the implications and not hand the president a victory that he doesn't deserve. >> greta: ambassador, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> greta: now to the growing threat of the fiscal cliff. today on the senate floor, mino
for the white house and the fact she also in response to another reporter's question said she thought john kerry who was one of the senators in the club here who has been very public about wanting the job, would sail through is another interesting wrinkle in the drama going on. >> i heard your followup question as well which was intriguing that the chairman of her committee joe lieberman the independent who has been seemingly very moderate on this has emerged to say susan rice would be a terrific candidate. i'm not sure if those were his words but essentially a great candidate. qualify her reactions and characterize whether you expected that reaction from senator collins. >> reporter: it's interesting because the point i was trying to make is that the two of them, there is almost no partisanship between the democrat and republican who are on that committee joe lieberman and susan collins. they pretty much go after things in a joint way. it's the way they operate, where they are in the political spectrum and the nature of their committee on homeland security. why is it significant? democrats have
to determine who gets in to the cabinet so i'm not interested that they think john kerry would have an easier time. >> what i would say just from a tactical standpoint, i think the focus on susan rice and the performance on sunday talk shows has sort of undermined the deeper more important questions as you point out, s.e. on this. but in other goings on within the establishment, republicans trying to figure out how they, the establishment figures exercise more influence in their primaries to end what they call their aiken angle problem. today the efforts dealt a blow. the current lieutenant governor of virginia is set to drop out of the 2013 virginia gubernatorial race. he was endorsed by outgoing governor macdonald. he was mitt romney's virginia campaign chairman. the establishment-backed guy and leaves the door open for tea party darling known to virginians and many others as the kuch. thes state's current attorney general. we also have elsewhere and popular west virginia moderate, shelly moore capito to challenge jay rockefeller and rebuked by tea party senator jim demint and the club for
snow over at defense. i think john kerry has a strong case to make for defense. putting a republican, it works with bob gates it could work again. >> william cohen too. >> absolutely. >> bob kerry for you joe tell me about bob kerry. he lost in the senate race. they owe him a favor? >> they owe him big time. if indiana is going to be the bread basket of the cabinet members, i say let's go outside that particular box. bob kerry of nebraska, war veteran, knows what it's like to be in combat, kind of an innovative thinker president of the new school in new york, very creative outside the box kind of guy to the point you don't know exactly what he's going to say. what's not to like about a wacky secretary of defense. he could be somebody who is -- he is a serious ideas guy someone congress can respect because they know him. he served in the congress many decades. he also is very good credibility on military. >> and somebody who could talk credibly about the weapons system that we need and don't need and convince congress to go along with some of these cuts. >> joe makes a very good argum
, if the president can't appoint susan rice, then he would have to appoint john kerry and that would open up a massachusetts senate seat for scott brown. so it could all be a way of getting back another republican in the united states senate. don't know for sure. just sayin'. all right. we'll look into that and a whole lot more here but first standing by with today's current news update, lisa ferguson in los angeles. hi lisa. take it away. >> hey bill, thanks. good morning everyone. as president heads to meet with leaders of the business world this afternoon politico is reporting that john boehner and his leadership team are making plans to meet with some of these very same executives. now the irony here is that obama and boehner still have no plans to meet themselves face-to-face. the two did meet before congress' thanksgiving recess along with the other two three members of the house and the senate. they had plans to meet again this week but still nothing is scheduled. it is not a great sign and shows that the two groups a
or john kerry or someone else, there will be questions about a new internationalism, not a liberal intervention that isn't about bombs, bases, intervention and rebuilding america's relationship with the world and dealing with the problems of our time like climate crisis, nuclear proliferation, hunger and how to lead to a global economic policy. it's issues we have not done a good job in dealing with, nor will it. >> the trouble with that, though, is that we actually don't have the money as a result of the choices of the people who would be voting to confirm or not confirm ambassador rice. if you only have the money for the military. the pentagon is well funded. your regional commander could go out. i agree with your critique. the way to get to the source of the critique is not that, you know, susan rice or anybody else doesn't understood what you said. it's to follow the money and give the u.s. the tools. >> shouldn't we rethink where the money goes? one of the reasons diplomatic security is underfunded. the cuts between the state department. the balance between state, diplomacy an
that in any confirmation hearing, whether it's susan rice or john kerry, there will be questions raised about a new internationalism. one that is not a neoliberal or liberal interventionism that isn't about bombs, bases, intervention. but about rebuilding america's relationship with the world and dealing with the major problems of our time, like climate crisis, nuclear proliferation, hunger and how america can lead a global economic recovery. these are issues liberal interventionism has not done a good job dealing with. >> the trouble with that, though, is that we actually don't have the money as a result of the choices of the people who would be voting to confirm or not confirm ambassador rice. if you only have the money for the military solution because the pentagon is well funded and your regional commander has much more ability to go out and act on behalf of the u.s. than the ambassador does. so i agree with your critique, but the way to get to the source of the critique is not that susan rice doesn't understand, but it's to follow the money and -- >> but should we rethink our priorities
that assignment. i don't hold it against her. i think what it may show the president doesn't want to nominate john kerry to be secretary of state. he thought he had first term. now it looks like he may get the defense department as a consolation prize which is frightening. the real point, it's not simply the paper trail of these talking points. the administration as a whole including the white house spokesman, including the president himself on multiple occasions was following a narrative that the benghazi attack was caused by the mohammad video. there is nobody in the government who believes that except the president and knows right around him. the real question is knowing the benghazi attack,hose first who was it that made the decision they were going to explain it that way. i would ask susan rice between 9/11 and your appearance on those five sunday talk shows, did you talk to president obama? did you talk to the national security advisor? did you talk to valerie jarret or david axelrod? follow the trail but look at the bigger picture. >> here is the biggest picture. the guy who made this video
to nominate john kerry, who's head of the foreign relations committee, knows the issues around the world, and would ease ily be confirmed as secretary of state. >> let me switch gears quickly and get your assessment, senator, on where we're standing on the fiscal cliff and what you think the key issue is. >> well, i would -- >> we seem to have lost his audio. and so i want to thank senator john barrasso for being with us this morning. >>> should women be moved to the front lines in battle? four servicewomen have joined forces with the aclu suing the defense department to end the ban on women in direct combat. >> the modern battlefield means that there's no front lines and there's no safe areas. every time a woman or any service member sets foot into iraq or afghanistan, they are serving in a combat zone. >> the plaintiffs say the current rules hurt their military career prospects and limit their chances for promotion. a pentagon spokesman said they are committed to expanding roles for women in the military. look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that
, tell him it's going to be okay, and tell him you've been there before, because when john kerry lost, you felt a similar silence of disappointment. and let him know you're there with him. as far as the stuff thing, i would flip it. i would say 100% of american who is want stuff. if you meet someone who's america who doesn't want stuff, then you get suspicious. you see something, you say something. if you don't want stuff, you hate america. it's the stuff-buying season. >> yeah. what if aunt hilda claims the president's re-election has triggered the zombie apocalypse. she might sound like this guy. here it is. >> there's more flexibility now and they remember their enemies. inflation is coming. the fiscal cliff subpoeis comin. the dollar fell last night on the news. your taxes are going up, your health care costs are going up, your religion is going to come under attack. gas, coal, and energy is going to become more expensive. may i highly suggest you get grandfathered in to the second amendment today. >> how do you handle that kind of talk? >> first of all, if your aunt's name really
of sympathy with her, the way they actually probably do with john kerry, her potential rival to secretary of state, having taken a bunch of delegation trips with mccain around the world. i don't think it should be disqualifying if obama decides to choose her as the next secretary of state. she's the ambassador to u.n. she's not in charge of intelligence and not in charge of intelligence reports. it is simultaneously true they scrub the reports she got of any al qaeda mention. that was probably done within the intelligence community herself. her job as u.n. ambassador was to tell what that intelligence report said on the sunday shows and that's what she did. i don't think there's any reason to disqualify her based on anything that's happened in the last year. and, frankly, i guess i'd cut her a little slack for some of the political attacks she's taken. i guess i don't agree with graham and mccain on this one. but if you're going to be a diplomat, you should probably be diplomatic all the way around. ( laughter ) you're going to come in for a little criticism. >> benghazi has almost take
that were important to us, we sent john kerry to sudan, that's a level of engagement that we need to step up. what we're seeing here, this rebel group taking a city of a million people, carving this area into keystones, kind of imposing terror there, precipitated in the passing of 3 million lives. >> we have to be engaged in a sustained way. we have been involved there. u.s. military trained a congo battalion that has proven effective. but it's only one. it's all about security. they don't have the security forces in that region. if we could work actively to train security forces we could make an enormous difference. >> interesting that you say that, anecdotely, some of our people lost their car in a ditch, the army guys pulled up to help get the people out after ditch, here we go, it's going to be bribery. they brought the car out, they waved good-bye. they said, no problem. it turned out to be the one unit of their armed we trained, so this progress is possible and, as you know, this country was the subject of the single piece of legislation that barack obama sponsored while he was in the
as secretary of state. and, of course, waiting in the wings, john kerry, who we understand the white house will nominate to be defense secretary. i'm told he would accept that post even though he would prefer to be secretary of state. we've got to go but thank you very much. chris cizilla, kelly o'donnell. joining me now is ambassador nicolas burns, former undersecretary of state and ambassador to nato, now with the john f. kennedy school of government at harvard. nick we've been through this before, seen confirmation hearings go off kilter. this is not getting a great start. >> and it's a shame, andrea, because i think these charges against ambassador rice, i don't find convincing. she was simply representing the viewpoint of an entire administration and many of us have been in positions of defending administration's republican and democrat in the past, i have, where you're not out there, you know, just trumpeting your own personal views. you're relying on a collective judgment made ats the state department, the white house, the cia and other places, and she was merely the person represen
know susan rice, worked with her in the john kerry campaign in 2004. she has the skill and the judgment to be secretary of state if president obama wants her to be. >> it's unfair? >> completely unfair. it's a tough town and lots of people want to be secretary of state i suspect. and the press has a role to play here, but at the end of the day i think if barack obama, who's just been rere elected, would like susan rice to be his secretary of state, she will be. >> steve, chip, happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving. >> also making news this morning, investigators say they're questioning people in connection with an explosion that killed two residents and virtually leveled a neighborhood in indianapolis. police say they have served search warrants, although they haven't made any arrests yet. sources are also telling "the indianapolis star" that investigators believe gas was intentionally leased into one of the homes and that blast may have been sparked remotely. >>> elmo puppeteer kevin clash is leaving "sesame street" after a second man accused him of underage sexual abuse. he's sill
rice might be intersvennist than john kerry who's the other potential nominee and maybe take susan rice instead of john kerry. >> when you think of the dynamics on capitol hill and the relationship when from capitol hill to the white house, i mean, what impact do you think a bruising battle over susan rice would be and the other things they're running on? >> exactly. i mean, you know, you could have a three-ring circus or cut down one of the rings and push it to the side and you have got the fiscal cliff going on. you've got issues that have to do with egypt, foreign aid to egypt. you have gaza. why do you want to have another ring there? and start dealing with this confirmation battle which is as wolf pointed out earlier the optics of a confirmation battle with susan rice. african-american woman. two groups that the republican party did not do very well with i might add in the last election. >> acknowledging they need to do better. >> i don't mean to impugn john mccain or lindsey graham for criticizing her. i think they have their reasons and nothing to do with anything other than beng
clinton steps down. also on that list is senator john kerry. we've also heard tom donlin, another name, national security adviser. again, all names that could be put forward by the president. but so far no announcement as to when the president will afford a name. >>> the fiscal cliff, now just 34 days away. meeting with chief executives of some of the biggest companies to gainlg gauge how the looming tax hikes and spending cuts could impact businesses. marisa mayer, ceo of yahoo! is one of those. she made her first public comments since taking the helm and giving birth. she invoked some legendary wisdom. >> in my life there were three things, god, family and the green bay packers, in that order. right? and i think that for me it's god, family and yahoo! in that order. >> mayer was honored at fortune magazine's dinner for the most powerful women. >>> 34-year-old michael dunn facing a murder charge, killing jordan davis in the process. it reportedly sparked over a fight about loud music. it's reminding some of the trayvon martin case. dunn's attorney says that's not so. >> kill that [ bl
'm not a constitutional scholar which i know shocks both of you. can john kerry be retroactively named president after president obama? >> no. >> stephanie: why not? >> because. >> stephanie: okay. >> no, he can't be. >> stephanie: fine, you're constitutional scholars but i'm not. >> the server crashed at 11:13 they bounced over to -- i don't know where they went -- but they were able to keep them from flipping the votes. that's why rove was so stunned. that's why he didn't bother to write -- >> stephanie: somebody said that. wonder if we can hack it back. maybe we did. >> that's what i called for back then. >> stephanie: except for when we did it it wasn't cheating. it was just winning. winning. drinker. what? is it too late for charlie sheenism? the headline is g.o.p.'s benghazi conspiracy falls apart. white house did not change susan rice's -- any apology to susan rice yet? >> it is not the policy. >> stephanie: for you to apologize ever? not the policy for you not to be bitter? >> clouds! >> fox news dropped ben
as well -- john kerry is a possibility as well. >>> a lousy, foul smell plagued the american river in sacramento. now we know why. >>> you are looking at the american river in sacramento. beautiful place but it smells out there because of dead fish. thousands of salmon die in the river every fall. each year -- female salmon swim upstream lay 5,000 to 6,000 eggs and they die. in about 50 days, those eggs become baby salmon. the process starts all over gren. but the smell left behind is turning up noses. >>> a san jose jewry order took matters into her own hands when two men came in to rob remember. police say two men wearing masks and hooded sweatshirt thed walked -- sweatshirts walked into the store and fired. the owner fired back with her own gun. she chased the men out of the store. no one was hurt. nothing was stolen. police are still searching for the two men. >>> 7:56 is back. we have a new accident in the south bay. where is it? we're not hearing you. >> we have a car that's gone down the embankment in san jose. let's take a look at the maps. we understand that one person is
with disabilities. this year the senate foreign relations committee under the leadership of chairman john kerry and ranking minority member richard lugar celebrateds the it 22nd anniversary of the act by reporting on the rights of persons with disabilities on a strong bipartisan basis. i want to personally thank senator kerry and senator lugar for moving the treaty through the committee process. it was -- the treaty through the committee process. it was a hectic time. they made a point of making certain that we brought this issue forward. personal thanks to my friend, senator john mccain, who's on the floor at this moment for making this a bipartisan effort. i also want to thank senators barrasso, harkin, tom udall, moran, and coons for their bipartisan support and dedication to the passage and ratification of this important treaty. now is the time for the full senate to affirm our nation's leadership on disability issues by ratifying this important treaty. and we should do so with strong, bipartisan support that has always characterized the efforts we've had on disabilities. the support 2340
as secretary of state and she may not be. obama could decide to go with john kerry or jane armen or who knows who else, right? susan rice has to go up to the united states senate today and meet with -- she will, meet with john mccain and lindsey graham and a couple of other senators and try to explain herself. she shouldn't have to do that. i think it is embarrassing. kevin is calling from chicago. what do you think kevin? >> caller: hey, how do youing, bill? >> bill: good to hear from you. >> caller: if they were a legitimate news organization, wouldn't you go with the fact -- take whatever your guest says and you go with it. but since everybody knows they're the mouthpiece of the republicans, i find it amusing that they're so inept they don't even see what their guest is going to say. it is like how dumb are they? it just reinforcing the bumper sticker on my car as i drive to work this morning. fox news, the more you watch the less you know. >> bill: i like that! send me one. where did you get it? kevin, it let me t
go for an easier option, and that would be senator john kerry of massachusetts. he's someone who could, relatively speaking, glide through the senate with ease compared to susan rice at this point. it all depends on how benghazi shapes up. if it's looking like there's not going to be a big investigation, then susan rice looks like the more likely option. it all depends on how big of a fight he wants in the senate. rick: how wig of a story -- how big of a story do you think it is going to turn out to be, bebb ghazi? -- benghazi? i've heard people compare it to watergate given that no one died from watergate. as we take a look at what we know, what information we have available to us, what do you think is the potential here with this story? >> it depends because we've got a split congress. in the senate, it's run by democrats. they were having closed-door investigations last week, and a lot of democrats told me that they saw this as something that would be difficult to get to the bottom of, full of vague information and, you know, this whole fog of war thing. will we ever really kn
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